I would love to know you are with your sis for Christmas Mike. X
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I would love to know you are with your sis for Christmas Mike. X
I think so too Mike.
There you go Mike, if Flo says it it must be right. X
Just been informed that we will be in tier 2 here from 2 Dec. It’s a good job I don’t actually have any friends or family to invite to my home.
We're tier 3.
Now that really sucks. I’m just getting really fed up with it all now.
Most areas will go to tier 2 or 3 and its reviewed fortnightly, yup everyone is fed up of it to be honest.
We have stayed in tier 2. I'm surprised. I was expecting us to hit tier 3. I'm sure it's coming.
I live in Nottingham so I am in in tier 3. I think the restrictions are wholly necessary but my heart really goes out to people whose livelihoods are being destroyed but the restrictions.
The economic situation is horrendous - hopefully once it is safe it can bounce back.
We're in Tier 2 in Somerset......grrr!
We're in level 5. No travelling more than 5km from home. No visitors or no visiting. Work from home. Etc. On Tuesday at midnight we go to level 3. We can move around our county, have no more than 6 people from 3 different households, non essential shops and businesses can re open, and we can have a somewhat normal Christmas. Because everyone knows that Covid stops for Christmas.
Level 5? We don't even have a level 5... Sorry lovely. It all seems a bit mad doesn't it?
If it was mad in November it is far worse now.
I do find the whole situation very frightening - especially for my Mum who I live with and is 71 and has asthma as well one of my best friends who has a severe underlying health condition.
Hopefully in the coming months things will get better.
I think we're all hoping that.
We're in the new Tier 4, so under the "stay at home order." It's difficult, but it's important so that we can share another Christmas.... All you can do is follow the guidelines, wash and sanitise hands, wear masks (unless genuinely exempt) and keep social distancing....
The whole thing and the way it is being handled by the government is ridiculous. We now have a “new strain” so does this mean that all that work on rushing through a vaccine will be pointless? Or is this just an excuse for when the vaccine doesn’t work as expected? Local lockdowns are only going to impact local small businesses and kill off the high street completely. The rich continue to get richer while the poor get poorer. Our NHS has been applauded for offering a worse service to the majority with f2f consultations and operations not taking place meaning so many people having to suffer with pain and discomfort which only adds to poor mental health.
I get that this virus is a potential killer and we have to limit our exposure to protect ourselves but at the same time many, just maybe this is Mother Nature’s was of “thinning the herd”. The human race is responsible for the destruction of rainforests and disrupted the natural balance of the planet to benefit ourselves. Our numbers keep increasing while we hunt many species in near extinction. Maybe it’s our turn to be kulled to restore balance? I know that’s an unpopular idea because nobody wants to sacrifice themselves or loved ones and of course I’m no different but maybe this is what has to happen to allow the generations that come after us to rebuild and live happier lives?
There are already many thousand mutations of this virus and most of them don’t change what’s going on globally. No one can predict which mutations are going to be dangerous or significant. The government received reports only recently of this mutation and, as I understand it, only discovered how infectious it was on Friday. So they had to act quickly. I can’t see what more they could have done in this instance. And, from what I’ve looked at, the mutations are not very dramatic so should still respond to the vaccines.
I think the government have had a near impossible task in the last few months - trying to minimise deaths and serious illness from Covid whilst at the same time trying to prop the economy up. Unfortunately, as a country we have fared very badly on both counts. However, Europe as a continent has been hit very badly - no western European country has come close to replicating the success most East Asian countries have at keeping the virus well under control.
The very annoying thing about the PM is his constant bold promises and pledges and then completely under-delivering time and time again. From "the word beating test and trace system", "significant return to normality" by Christmas, "we can send the coronavirus packing" and "we can turn the tide in 12 weeks" back in March. Personally, I find it hard to take what he says seriously now.
I am very lucky that I still have my job and so far have not had any health problems from Covid.
That is exactly what I'm talking about Knowle, BoJo has underestimated the impact and made promises he couldn't deliver. How are we expected to trust him? Constantly raising hopes only to let people down. This latest Christmas promise for people able to spend time together, and week before strict local lockdowns put a stop to that for so many people.
That means that vulnerable people who thought they were going to be with family so didn't get in the essencials cos they wouldn't be home suddenly are left at the last minute with nothing, unable to go out, shops shut and totally isolated. Good luck getting a super market delivery to cover you at this stage.
I'm no fan of Boris and his cronies, and I think things could and should have been handled much better from the outstart. We had 2 weeks warning as to what was coming when we could have protected ourselves - we're an island. If all borders had been shut then we could have had a much better state - look at New Zealand. They shut everything and it was controlled with a seriously harsh lockdown. They then reopened their borders and they let in someone from here and it started again, but it was contained quickly and sorted.
The changing of the rules between our countries squabbling and using it as a political football is ridiculous. It's simple, the scientists tell you to shut everything, lock everything then that's what you do, you don't carry on allowing friends and family to travel wherever they like, order rubbish ppe from your mates company and put another mate in charge of the test and trace app that is not exactly effective....
Yes Christmas being made more difficult is hard on everyone, harder on those in tier 4 who had plans to meet up with family. I, luckily had already made the decision I wasn't travelling to see my family and didn't want them here as we are so close to London. But I'm still sad, but it's the safest thing to do. Right now, that's what I have to hold on to - it being the safest thing. Marc and Hazel and I all have autoimmune conditions, Fern is allergic to so much so for me the fear is real. With my shopping list of diagnosis I fall in the high risk category, but I know if my Mum catches it with severe asthma and a heart condition that she has already outlived the prognosis for I am not going to be the one to give it to her. It is that simple.
Suzi totally agree with you that Boris Gump and his cronies handled it wrong from the start, smartest thing to do at the very very begininng put masks on and keep distance but no advice given properly, I am sick to death of telling people to back away from me, Jays lungs are not good, we have been told to keep an eye on Caitlin for her lungs and Ryans immune system isnt brilliant, though they are not classed as high risk its a risk I wont take.
My brothers ex girlfriends mum lost her husband 6 weeks ago, she lives in wales and was going to stay with her daughter for a few days over xmas, now that wont happen, so now she is going to be on her own over christmas grieving for her husband.
That's so sad...
It is the case for so many unfortunately which is why I feel so angry that promises were made that simply cannot be fulfilled. My cousin who lost her husband earlier in the year lives in London and in the same position. First Christmas without him and can’t have her family around to help her deal with it.
It's all very difficult but to be honest I would hate to be in government in unprecedented times of a global pandemic. Who signed up for that! I would hate to have to decide which research to follow, which professionals to be guided by with so much conflicting evidence.
I am in no way defending the government but I guess as things develop and unfold difficult decisions have to be made and what was ok today may not be ok tomorrow.
I have to agree with you SM. It's all very upsetting that people's plans have totally been turned upside down, but if restrictions aren't put into place - however late in the day - they're blamed for negligence. There's more conflicting scientific advice than you can shake a stick at! I wouldn't have the job! The government are damned if they do and damned if they don't and it's a 'no win' situation. We've just got to get on with it as best we can I suppose.:s
New level 5 restrictions are coming in here on Christmas Eve afternoon. There were supposed to be no flights in since Sunday evening, but people were flying into Belfast and driving across the border.
How are the level 5 restrictions different for what you have now?
No travelling more than 2km. All non essential businesses to close. No visitors to the house. No hugs or handshakes.
We haven’t had hugs or handshakes since March :(
Indeed - I did an elbow bump with my friend today.
The situation in England is very frightening - I am torn between not following the news but also wanting to know what is going on.
As of midnight Scotland are going into a full "legal requirement to stay at home" lockdown including closing all schools until at least Feb.
Boris is going to be announcing the English changes tonight at 8pm. This is to explain what's going to happen as they have stated that the tier system isn't enough to counteract the spread of the virus. Jeremy Hunt is urging BJ to go into full lockdown and close all schools immediately.
OMG!! Wonder if Zoe and co knows about this? It doesn't surprise me really....I think the only way to get a grip on this plague is to have the whole of the UK singing from the same hymn sheet. Anyone think the same as me??
Yep. Not gonna happen though
Also completely agree...
Hmmmmm, I don’t know what to think anymore. So much confusion and BS I kinda home I catch it and it finishes me off
I'm actually really shocked you'd even say something like that. I find that comment really insensitive and out of order actually. Esp as you have lost someone through this and I've friends who have family in intensive care fighting for their life..
The update for England is all schools to shut until AT LEAST February 1/2 term
GCSE + A LEVELS are to be cancelled
Other National exams to be cancelled
Full lockdown
We’ve all gotta go out one way or another. If I wanted to be imprisoned I’d have committed a crime. I’m sick and tired of living in fear of a virus. If I get it I get it. I don’t care anymore :(
Do you think I want to be shut indoors for God alone knows how much longer? Do you think any of us do? But these restrictions are all about beating the virus, not living in fear of it.
And, by all accounts, it’s a horrible, horrible way to die - suffocated by your own lungs. And that’s if you don’t have a stroke, heart attack, septicaemia ...... Is that really how you’d want to go? I don’t think you do, that this is about other issues. Which is why it’s even more upsetting to me that you’d say something like that when I know you are a much more caring, sensitive person than that
Great, that's what I'll tell my mate to tell her BIL then? The one who is on a ventilator where no one is allowed to go and visit? That's what we tell his kids? That staying in and keeping her daughter safe is pointless as after all we've all got to go...
I'm actually really cross that you can say things like this when so many have lost so many and not only through covid, but who weren't able to be there for important things like births, marriages, funerals etc because of the possibility that they could pass it on to someone else...
I understand you're struggling, but this isn't the kind of comment you'd make - especially when you knew that some of us were struggling with knowing people who were dealing with this...