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Pixie85
28-03-22, 09:45 PM
So I was told I was going to be starting CBT on Feb, turns out it was a 2 session workshop on trauma and PTSD, which did nothing to help. I'm still waiting on trauma therapy to start and I have no idea how much longer than will take and I'm seriously starting to feel like how I was before I even started taking any medication, so I don't even think that's helping anymore. How long was your wait for therapy?

Suzi
29-03-22, 08:41 AM
I had a group of 12 weeks group work as an interim to counselling with a specialist organisation, but I've been told that with the wait for 1:1 could be 5 years or more. But each day I'm on that list it's getting a day closer...

When was your last meds review?

Pixie85
29-03-22, 09:04 AM
I've not been offered anything else. My dose was upped around mid December, I think

Paula
29-03-22, 09:14 AM
Then you need to go back to your doctor for a meds review, love

Suzi
29-03-22, 09:29 AM
Have you asked to be on the waiting list for 1:1? Definitely go and talk it all through with your GP lovely.

Pixie85
29-03-22, 11:58 AM
Yes, I've asked for 121....I had an email telling me they'd let me know when I'd reached the top of the list. Is there a way I can check my position on the list? The thing is that now it's been so long, I'm really going to find it hard to speak to my GP again....like I have to build myself up all over again, if that makes sense.

Paula
29-03-22, 01:16 PM
It does make sense, but you really need to do it, love

Suzi
29-03-22, 05:44 PM
It does need to be done. It's really important to do this. Maybe try to keep regular appointments so it's not building yourself up again each time itms?

shine
03-04-22, 03:43 PM
Do you have a number you can call for the counselling that you could ask about the waiting list. I think a lot depends on your location as to how long the wait is. It's definitely increased in the last two years. There are also helplines you can call such as Samaritans and mind and your GP can give you the number for the crisis line should you need.

Pixie85
10-05-22, 10:12 PM
I feel like I'm getting nowhere. I'm trying to sort some (much needed!) help, whilst I'm still waiting on a therapist, its been almost 5 months now. I've tried the live chat sessions with r*pe crisis and victim support and not been able to get through...I've enquired about 2 online CSA supports groups, to be told there is a "long waiting list"....I've asked about a face to face group, but I can't go to it because I'm "out of area of support" and I haven't been able to find another face to face in my area. I've been given the details.of samaritans and the samaritans app but that's what I was already doing....I was already emailing samaritans. This is so frustrating....

Suzi
10-05-22, 10:40 PM
There is a really long wait for all this kind of help - I'm waiting too, so I can totally understand how bad things can be and how unbearable it can all seem....
Why not post more here? The community here can really help - they've helped me no end, then as and when you've been here a while and we've got to know you a bit better I can add you to our abuse survivors group. It's a private group and I let people in once we've had chance to get to know you as it's such a triggering and sensitive area - I'm sure you can understand...

Pixie85
10-05-22, 11:27 PM
I didn't even know there was an abuse support group. I always think that I'm just being repetitive or I'm boring people �� I can't believe I'm still waiting....I'm sure when I spoke to the MH worker last time, she told be 2-3 months....obviously not

Pixie85
11-05-22, 12:06 AM
What do I need to do to be added to the abuse survivors group?

Suzi
11-05-22, 10:24 AM
As I said in my post you need to be a more regular poster. Due to the nature of what is said in that group I only allow people access who I have had the chance to get to know better. It's a private group and it needs to be that way...

There are lots of private groups: http://www.dealingwithdepression.co.uk/showthread.php?41-Private-sections

Pixie85
11-05-22, 11:48 AM
Ok, I understand that. Thank you.

Suzi
11-05-22, 12:06 PM
You're very welcome. It's just there to protect everyone as best as possible.

Pixie85
11-05-22, 12:52 PM
I don't even know what else I'm supposed to do. I feel so stuck. This is rubbish ��

Paula
11-05-22, 01:04 PM
When was the last time you spoke to your GP, lovely?

Pixie85
11-05-22, 01:19 PM
Last time i spoke to my GP was mid Dec and MH team was mid Dec too. I sometimes feel like I don't want to tell them how hard I'm finding things sometimes. People say I wouldn't have my children taken away because of mental health and I know that but it's still a fear I can't shake. I don't even like using the phone because I tend to get too emotional.

Paula
11-05-22, 01:58 PM
Lovely, how are they supposed to know how bad things are if you don’t tell them?

Pixie85
11-05-22, 02:03 PM
I know. I know I'm not making things easier for myself. Another big thing is that I don't want anyone knowing my business and things that have happened yo me. What if they were to contact my partner etc O don't know how I'd explain things to him

Suzi
11-05-22, 02:45 PM
Why not put it in writing to them? At least then you will have told them. They can then help with chasing appointments too.

Pixie85
11-05-22, 02:50 PM
Because writing is hard too.I probably sound really awkward now, don't I

Paula
11-05-22, 05:37 PM
Why don’t you want your partner to know?

Jaquaia
11-05-22, 05:45 PM
I know. I know I'm not making things easier for myself. Another big thing is that I don't want anyone knowing my business and things that have happened yo me. What if they were to contact my partner etc O don't know how I'd explain things to him

From a counselling point of view, your therapist is obligated to keep everything you say confidential. The only reasons they can break confidentiality is if there are safeguarding issues or if you are planning to or have broken the law. Anything else, doesn't leave the room.

Pixie85
11-05-22, 05:53 PM
I just don't want him to know. I don't want anyone to know any of it

Suzi
11-05-22, 07:33 PM
If you don't let anyone in and know then noone will be able to help you. It's really hard to do, and there have been a fair few members here who have gone through it so we do understand, but this doesn't deserve to be a "dirty little secret" and actually is really important and you deserve to get help with it.

Pixie85
11-05-22, 07:39 PM
I'm getting help, its slow but I've made steps. I'm on medication and I'm on a wait list. What good would it do to tell him? I'd just rather he didn't know. I've got this site and I've been emailing samaritans too

Suzi
11-05-22, 08:55 PM
That's your choice lovely, no one here is going to pressure you into anything.... From my own experiences though, it's easier when you don't have to do this alone...

Pixie85
11-05-22, 09:01 PM
Maybe once I start with a therapist and start talking about it, I might feel like I can tell him.....but for now, it's a no to telling him. I don't want him to think differently of me....and with it being my 2 brothers, he's actually met them

Suzi
11-05-22, 09:27 PM
I understand more than you know love, I'm glad you're seeking help, but please, please, please try to get back to the GP and get things chased up and a meds review...

Pixie85
11-05-22, 09:43 PM
I'm going to try and ring for an appt tomorrow. �� fingers crossed I can actually do it this time ��

Suzi
11-05-22, 09:56 PM
You aren't on your own, we're all with you in spirit. You really can do this.

Pixie85
11-05-22, 10:01 PM
Thank you so much ��

Paula
11-05-22, 10:10 PM
Will you let us know how you get on?

Pixie85
11-05-22, 10:13 PM
Yes, I'll pop back on at some point tomorrow. Going to try and get a little bit of sleep now. Thank you ladies

Suzi
11-05-22, 10:22 PM
You're very welcome.

Pixie85
12-05-22, 05:47 PM
It took a while but I made the appt! Can't speak to anyone until 6th June though and the dr I have been speaking to isn't there anymore :(

Suzi
12-05-22, 08:09 PM
Well done for making that call. I know it feels a way off, but you could write a list of what you want to say and hand it in so they get that before your appointment.

Pixie85
12-05-22, 08:16 PM
It's a telephone consult. I find it easier than face to face but yes, I'll be writing things down because I know I'll be super emotional, as always when I speak about how I've been feeling. Don't want to miss anything out

Pixie85
12-05-22, 08:22 PM
Do you know if the Dr will have access to the MH assessments? Will he know what I've said? Or are MH records separate?

Paula
12-05-22, 09:08 PM
Is that a question you could ask the admin staff at your surgery?

Pixie85
12-05-22, 09:10 PM
I don't know. I didn't think of asking that when I spoke to them. I don't want to ring again, it took me long enough to ring for the appt ��(swear)♀️

Stella180
12-05-22, 09:25 PM
Yes, the GP should have access to information like that but they don’t always have time to read through everything prior to your appointment.

Suzi
12-05-22, 09:25 PM
See if you can over the next few days?

Pixie85
12-05-22, 09:29 PM
Oh I don't know why it made a face like I was swearing?! How weird. I did the facepalm emoticon. I'll see what Google brings up.

Pixie85
27-05-22, 10:35 AM
This might sound a bit strange, I'm not too sure...Do you ever feel like you're feeling "ok" sometimes....not ok like before all the sh*t happened obviously, I think that ship has sailed....but like you're not thinking about it all as much and you're not getting upset over it. I don't know whether this is a good thing or bad thing because although when I first started bringing things up and talking very briefly to a counsellor I felt really shitty, emotional etc but it some ways, I felt I was making steps to move forward, not enough steps though because I found counselling too difficult at that time, so I stopped.....but now I have the weird feeling of not feeling anything about it all and the reason I'm not sure.if it's a good thing or not is because I kinda think it's gone that way because I've buried it all inside my head again....am I even making sense? I don't know? I just don't know how I'm going to feel once things start being brought up again, once I'm finally assigned a trauma counsellor...but I kinda think that I might be in a better place for it now....now I have the medication to help. I'm waffling on here, I know 🤦(swear)♀️

Suzi
27-05-22, 03:52 PM
The meds are often used to be in place to be able to help you to work through things whilst you are more "stable..." Don't try to second guess how you are feeling and how you are going to feel, just go with it...

Pixie85
05-06-22, 11:17 PM
Supposed to have a telephone consultation between 8-9am tomorrow. Didn't even realise my other half is off work. I can't talk about things like this around him. He doesn't even want me on the sertraline

Suzi
06-06-22, 09:37 AM
Why doesn't he want you taking meds?

Pixie85
06-06-22, 09:56 AM
He just doesn't. He thinks they're a waste of time. I managed to speak to my Dr, he doesn't want to increase my dose yet. He's told me to get myself put more, meditation and to look for some kind of job....then ring back in a month. Don't think I liked him �� spent a lot of time talking about himself

Paula
06-06-22, 10:46 AM
A job? When was the last time you worked?

If you disagree with him, would you get an appointment with another doctor?

Pixie85
06-06-22, 10:50 AM
I've been a stay at home mum since Jan 2017. My youngest goes to school full time in Sept, so I'll be looking for a job then. I've also been in touch with Healthy Minds this morning as the Dr told me to chase them up and now they're saying they don't even have a record of me

Suzi
06-06-22, 12:15 PM
Well done for talking to him, I agree with Paula, could you speak to someone different? Were you able to tell him how badly you are being affected on a day to day basis with your MH?

Pixie85
06-06-22, 12:39 PM
I'll try ask to speak to someone else next time. I didn't really feel able to talk about how I feel properly because my other half kept coming in and out of the bedroom, whilst I was on phone

Suzi
06-06-22, 01:57 PM
Could you not tell your OH that you don't want him coming in when you are on the phone to your Dr?

Pixie85
06-06-22, 11:22 PM
I just don't want all the questions he'd be asking. He just wouldn't let it go �� I was starting to feel more positive about things, once I started talking to my GP/referred to Healthy Minds but feel like I'm going backwards after today. I'm so fed up

Suzi
07-06-22, 08:39 AM
Why you do think you're going backwards?

Pixie85
07-06-22, 11:12 AM
I'm asking for help but it seems like whatever I try, there are waiting lists, no spaces, nothing in my area. Just feel like I'm going back to how I was feeling before I even started the medication

Suzi
07-06-22, 05:08 PM
There are waiting lists all over the country.... When did you last have a medication review?

Pixie85
07-06-22, 06:04 PM
I only spoke to him about medication yesterday. He's wants me to stay at 100mg for another month and then call him back

I'm not getting a good feeling about Healthy Minds. I'm wondering whether to try and look for a private therapist that will do low rates

Paula
07-06-22, 07:32 PM
Why? Have you rung them to chase things up?

Pixie85
07-06-22, 07:38 PM
I didn't realise I did double post? I got in touch with Healthy Minds yesterday and apparently, they don't even have a record of me �� she was going to look into it and get back to me but not heard anything yet

Suzi
07-06-22, 09:37 PM
You can try to see if there is a specialist counselling service in your area - depends on where you are as to cost and waiting lists....

Pixie85
07-06-22, 09:39 PM
I've emailed 2 private therapists and I've emailed healthy minds again too

Suzi
07-06-22, 09:42 PM
Would you have been able to talk to your Dr better today? Or a different one? Could you try calling to explain how things really are?

Pixie85
07-06-22, 10:57 PM
I don't even know which Drs are there anymore. There were 2 others that I spoke to and the one before this one was so nice....but I don't even remember his name :( thing will calling up again is that it's something I'm going to have to work myself up to doing again! It's stupid, but I can't just pick up the phone and call

Pixie85
08-06-22, 01:45 AM
Can't sleep through thinking about this and having memories pop up. Anyone on?

Paula
08-06-22, 06:45 AM
Did you get any sleep, love?

Pixie85
08-06-22, 09:00 AM
Not really ��

Paula
08-06-22, 09:04 AM
What do you do to get to sleep? Have you tried meditation, such as Headspace or Calm?

Pixie85
08-06-22, 09:26 AM
Yeh, I've got headspace now. Didn't really find it worked. I suppose it doesn't help that along with everything else, my 5 and 6 year olds aren't well at the mo. Was giving my 5 year old calpol at 3am

Paula
08-06-22, 09:32 AM
With things like headspace, it can take practice to really benefit. How often do you use it?

Pixie85
08-06-22, 09:46 AM
I haven't been using it long at all. I'll try stick with it

Stella180
08-06-22, 10:53 AM
There is no quick fix and you need to continue with therapeutic tools you’ve learned in order to benefit from them and meditation is the same.

Suzi
08-06-22, 11:47 AM
Poorly children always messes up sleep. Hope that they are much brighter today.
Can you try to get a nap in during the day?

Pixie85
08-06-22, 11:56 AM
No chance of that. They are just letting me have a chilled day and lay on the sofa, whilst they play. I've just called Healthy Minds again and they say I'm approached top of the list for CBT and that'll it'll be 4-6 weeks...possibly sooner. Is that going to be the same as trauma therapy? I don't even know?

Paula
08-06-22, 12:48 PM
No CBT is not trauma therapy. Here’s a link for Mind’s factsheet on CBT. 4-6 weeks is not a long wait atm, hunni

Pixie85
08-06-22, 12:58 PM
I asked if it was trauma therapist I'd be seeing and got this response
"Hi Lisa

Regarding your question, please be assured that all the CBT therapists with Healthy Minds are trained to treat symptoms indicative of PTSD as well as depression and a range of anxiety disorders. Once you start treatment, you can discuss your goals and aims for therapy with your therapist.

I hope this answers your question"

I wasn't sure on healthy minds the other day but they've been pretty responsive/quick at getting back to me via email. So think I'll just be seeing it through with them now

Suzi
08-06-22, 08:56 PM
It's good that you are at the top of the list... Definitely stick with it to give it a good go, you can always get referred for a next stage after this...

Pixie85
09-06-22, 11:54 PM
Got myself a little upset earlier and thought how I should book to speak to Dr again..... then I remember how my usual Dr, the Dr I first opened up to and liked, had left.... remembering that just set me off crying even more.... I feel so silly!

Paula
10-06-22, 06:46 AM
It’s not silly. You’re dealing with a lot atm and crying is a healing thing

Suzi
10-06-22, 07:49 AM
Definitely not silly, be kind to you. Maybe call your Drs and see if they have a Dr with a special interest in MH or someone sympathetic that you could see instead?

Pixie85
10-06-22, 12:47 PM
Had another message from Healthy Minds, telling me someone will be in touch very soon now and although I've been saying how I didn't feel like I could wait much longer etc now I know it's coming up, feeling a bit scared about it now. A part of me.still thinks that I shouldn't be talking to people about things

Suzi
10-06-22, 08:45 PM
It is scary, but you definitely should be doing this...

Paula
10-06-22, 10:53 PM
I’m so glad they’re able to offer you the support you need

Pixie85
13-06-22, 05:15 PM
Do you think it's wrong that I'm due to start therapy soon and I haven't told anybody about it? Not even my children's dad. I feel like I'm not being fair on him by not telling him something that's so big and affects me the way it does but i can't and Part of me still feel like I shouldn't be talking about any of it

Suzi
13-06-22, 08:16 PM
No it's not wrong at all. It's how you deal with it. Talking about this kind of thing is incredibly difficult and has to be done as you are ready to do it...

Pixie85
14-06-22, 01:02 PM
I'm starting with a CBT therapist, via Healthy Minds, on the 27th June. I always thought CBT was about here and now behaviours? Rather than the past...Is this even going to be the right thing for me? I don't want to have waited all this time for something that isn't going to help....Have any of you guys had CBT?

Jaquaia
14-06-22, 02:03 PM
I haven't had CBT but I'm currently studying it. It is about the here and now but it's also about trying to change negative thinking patterns and behaviours, which may help with better coping mechanisms.

Paula
14-06-22, 02:47 PM
It’s been years since I had CBT, but I’d say it was less about delving deep into the past than it was about changing how I thought and felt about things - and therefore improving how I cope with life. Many people find it helpful so it’s definitely worth a try, imho

Suzi
14-06-22, 06:21 PM
I agree with Jaq and Paula - although it's about here and now, the fact that it helps you to build tools to help you to cope with things as they arise - this often is used as a good basis before any trauma work...

Pixie85
15-06-22, 11:44 AM
Thank you guys, someone actually told me that they have done CBT before and it was about learning coping skills before getting in any traumatic issues....that way it would help more, which makes sense

Suzi
15-06-22, 03:46 PM
How are you doing lovely?

Pixie85
15-06-22, 09:06 PM
Don't really know how to answer that to be honest. Hope you're all ok?!

Suzi
15-06-22, 10:43 PM
Aw love, doesn't sound so good... Want to write it all down? I know it helps me just to get it all out of my head - it doesn't have to be in order or full sentences. Just let it out...

Paula
15-06-22, 11:39 PM
(panda)

Pixie85
15-06-22, 11:58 PM
I feel fake, I feel guilty and scared at the same time. I feel like I shouldn't be doing all of this. Days like this come and go, just need to pull myself back together

Suzi
16-06-22, 09:29 AM
Fake? Hunni, you are NOT a fake. If something has happened that has made you feel "uncomfortable" or has caused you trauma then what you are feeling and experiencing IS real and therefore IS important and you DESERVE to get some help..
Oh and please, please, please don't tell yourself that you need to "pull yourself together!" That's so damaging and just increases the issue of trauma..

Paula
16-06-22, 09:33 AM
Sweetheart, your feelings matter, your health matters, you matter

Pixie85
16-06-22, 11:52 AM
I sometimes get this feeling like there is nothing actually wrong and I'm just wasting people's time.

Paula
16-06-22, 11:53 AM
Then you need to challenge those thoughts. You deserve help to get better - this is not all in your head - and you’re not wasting anyones time

Suzi
16-06-22, 07:58 PM
Paula is right. These are just your thoughts. They are not how things really are lovely. You are totally deserving of this help...

Pixie85
18-06-22, 08:13 PM
Thank you guys ��
I've been sent another appt this morning. So 2 appts now. CBT therapist on 27th and an appt with someone else on 5th July, I don't really know what her role is but I do remember seeing her name when I did the ptsd/trauma workshop thing....I've googled her and can't find anything on her. I've been waiting nearly 7 months for this and have been pretty open with how some days have been a real struggle.....but now its actually happening, I don't know....
This is scary stuff, isn't it

Suzi
18-06-22, 09:58 PM
That's brilliant that you've got those appointments through.

I know it's scary, but it's definitely a positive..

Pixie85
25-06-22, 11:02 AM
I've only got the one appt on the 5th July now, the other clinician had to cancel.Does anyone know if the CBT therapist will have seen what I've said in the MH assessments / the CSA that I disclosed

Suzi
25-06-22, 11:15 AM
I don't know, but you can always ask...

Pixie85
25-06-22, 12:37 PM
I've emailed about the camera question, waiting on reply for that

Suzi
25-06-22, 07:26 PM
What bits were recorded?

Pixie85
25-06-22, 07:28 PM
Oh I just realised I didn't mention the camera thing here. I just wanted to know whether I'd have to keep the camera on throughout the session or not

Suzi
25-06-22, 07:33 PM
That's something that's discussed with each therapy - I've had group therapy where it was optional, other appointments where it was asked to stay on... But just ask.

Pixie85
25-06-22, 07:46 PM
I've emailed but probably won't get a response until Monday. I'd prefer not to have the camera on, so we'll just see what she says

Suzi
25-06-22, 08:38 PM
I'm sure it'll be fine..

Pixie85
26-06-22, 10:29 AM
Spoke to my mum last night....She has been having treatment for rheumatoid arthritis recently and an incidental finding during this was fluid and shadows on lungs. Dr's have told her it could be scaring from when she used to smoke but they are wanting to do a biopsy and I can't even tell you how worried this makes me feel....Surely if it was the big C then she'd of noticed other signs, right?

Suzi
26-06-22, 02:58 PM
Oh lovely, that's horrible news - but at least they've noticed it and can investigate enabling them to offer her the best possible treatment.. (bear)

Paula
26-06-22, 07:05 PM
(panda) hunni, they’re doing the necessary tests and will treat her for whatever is going on. I won’t tell you not to worry as I know that’s impossible, but try to remain hopeful that it is scarring - for her sake if not for yours

Pixie85
29-06-22, 05:19 PM
I've been doing some things for myself to get ready for the CBT on Tues, mostly writing about things. I'm aware we won't delve into any of the trauma related issues on first session but I started writing and just went where it took me. I started writing about how I've been feeling / questions I wanted to ask the therapist and then very briefly wrote all the things that have happened to me....and for some reason, I still have it in my head that these things aren't big enough for me to be seeking help.... and some of them are, what seem to me, like small things.... like the way my ex boss lied to get me alone and try it on with me or when my ex would want sex, I'd tell him we couldn't as on my period and then he'd ask to check �� or the taxi driver that said he'd let me off with my fare if I gave gave him oral (I was drunk) and obviously the bigger stuff like the sexual coercion/r*pe from my childrens dad, CSA and r*pe by my ex, the fact that my grandad murdered my grandma and he touched me up too (he was a convicted r*pist but the r*pe wasnt me)....why do I still feel like I don't deserve help or that I'm wasting their time? I don't even know how I'm even going to begin talking about any of this stuff. I feel like I need someone to tell me that even the "small things" are worth me seeking help over....like that was all wrong too.....because if it wasn't a big deal then it wouldn't stick in my mind like it has, right?

Paula
29-06-22, 05:34 PM
Sweetie, if you were reading that from someone else, would you think they are “small things”. Would you expect another woman to get through that without it causing trauma?…….

Jaquaia
29-06-22, 05:56 PM
It doesn't really matter if we tell you that the small things deserve help too, it's about you believing it. You do deserve help and support, and you know you would tell any other woman who had experienced what you have that they deserve help.

Suzi
29-06-22, 05:57 PM
Those are very, very definitely things that you deserve to get help with, those are huge things - each one in itself.... As Paula says, what would you say if one of us was saying that to you?

Pixie85
29-06-22, 08:55 PM
You're right, I guess I need to start believing it myself but I'm not there yet. Thank you all for replying. I'm sorry I repeat myself/post so much

Jaquaia
30-06-22, 07:10 AM
You have no need to apologise! If it's in your head, get it out. I think we're all guilty of saying the same thing at times, I know I am, and that's ok as it's bothering us.

Suzi
30-06-22, 07:44 AM
Jaq is totally right, if it's in your head, get it out! I can't tell you the amount of times I've needed to hear the same things over and over again...

Pixie85
30-06-22, 09:15 AM
Thank you for being so nice

Strugglingmum
30-06-22, 09:51 AM
Oh my goodness, if you were able to read all the threads I've had since I joined his forum you would see how much I have said the same things over and over and over just to get them out of my head. This is a safe place to do that!!

Suzi
30-06-22, 03:57 PM
Not "nice," just honest. Many of us have similar experiences or things that we can empathise with....

Pixie85
02-07-22, 07:01 PM
Cam anyone chat for a bit? Is there a PM facility?

Stella180
02-07-22, 08:35 PM
What’s up?

Jaquaia
02-07-22, 09:24 PM
There is a PM facility but we encourage people to chat on forum and not offer one to one support as we just don't have the training for that. It's just to protect everyone. People will reply here though

Suzi
02-07-22, 10:32 PM
As Jaq has explained, not only are we not trained to do 1:1 support, but we don't have the ability to have that kind of support in place for any of us who do it. As has been said, talking on here is always an option and someone gets back to you asap.

Pixie85
03-07-22, 12:39 PM
I was having a drink at a friend's house last night. I went to bed around 2am'ish....an hour or so later, my little ones dad showed up at my friend's house, pissed. She told him that he could sleep in the spare room....which is where he started off and then about 3-3.30, he came and got in the bed with me and he just would not listen to me saying no to him and telling him I didn't want to do anything....for 1. It was my friends bed 2. Our 6 year old was sleeping next to me and 3. We're not even properly together that way anymore. He just wouldn't listen to me, held me down and he felt too heavy, I couldn't push him off me and I couldn't get away from him kissing me either. He couldn't go the whole way because I had fallen asleep with my jeans on but his intention was clear....he wanted sex, whether I did or not. He was doing better but then he just turned once he'd been drinking again. Is this just the type of sh*t I attract or something?! �� we were doing better, we were on ok'ish terms as he hadn't been drinking and now this.

Jaquaia
03-07-22, 02:10 PM
Oh lovely that's horrendous!!! This is on him, not you. He chose to do what he did, you didn't make him so that was not your fault and will NEVER be your fault!

Pixie85
03-07-22, 03:59 PM
I'm so sick of life right now

Suzi
03-07-22, 04:27 PM
That is sexual assault. You could report that so easily love... You don't ever have to put up with that shit....

Pixie85
03-07-22, 04:39 PM
I can't report. I don't think it'd go anywhere anyway

Paula
03-07-22, 05:20 PM
Why can’t you, lovely?

Pixie85
03-07-22, 05:40 PM
It's my word against his, isn't it....plus I don't want all the drama of everyone finding out

Suzi
03-07-22, 06:54 PM
You can report it, it will build up a picture of him and you don't know id there are already allegations about him.... Just glad that you'd left your jeans on love...

Pixie85
03-07-22, 07:27 PM
If I tell the therapist I'm speaking to on Tues, will she tell me to report it?

Jaquaia
03-07-22, 08:32 PM
She may tell you but I don't think she can make you.

Pixie85
03-07-22, 08:34 PM
OK, thanks

Suzi
03-07-22, 09:11 PM
I don't think she can make you either...

Pixie85
03-07-22, 09:32 PM
He doesn't seem to remember it

Suzi
04-07-22, 08:06 AM
How do you know?

Pixie85
04-07-22, 09:14 AM
I asked him what he remembers about the night

Suzi
04-07-22, 10:20 AM
Are you still involved with him?

Pixie85
04-07-22, 11:27 AM
Only for the little ones

Pixie85
04-07-22, 01:25 PM
I feel horrible today. I literally just don't have the energy for anything. I was going to start going for walks after dropping Little ones at school, but I've come home and gotten myself back into bed. Picked my youngest and his friend up at 11.30 and I've left them playing downstairs to get back in bed. I have the appt with CBT therapist tomorrow too, so I have this horrible feeling in my tummy/chest. I want to feel better but there always just seems to be something to bring me back down again and I just really don't have the energy for it anymore

Suzi
04-07-22, 05:58 PM
Sweetheart how old are your little ones? If you're able to stay downstairs with them, it might help your mood too...

Pixie85
04-07-22, 06:17 PM
It was just my 4 year old and my friends 4 year old daughter too. My older 2 were at school. They're 5 and 6 years.

Stella180
04-07-22, 06:37 PM
Ok this might sound a bit brutal but what the hell are you thinking leaving kids of that age alone? How would your friend feel about you leaving her child unsupervised while you went to bed? Anything could happen and you are the responsible adult. As for that abusive SOB why would you have any contact with him? Don’t use the kids as an excuse cos he sounds like the kind of guy you want as far away from them so everyone’s safety. The man attacked you while your child was in the same bed ffs! What is it going to take for you to wake up and see what’s really going on? Trust me, this is coming from someone who lost her kids and had a POS toxic ex. You are heading down a path you really don’t wanna go. You need to get your shit together for yourself and those babies of yours. I know you’re struggling, so was I but that doesn’t change the facts that your kids are going to suffer if you don’t get some help.

Pixie85
04-07-22, 06:48 PM
They were playing and watching telly....they weren't putside....I wasn't sleeping, I could still hear them both

Pixie85
04-07-22, 06:48 PM
We aren't even together properly any more. I don't know why he came to my friends house or why my friend let him in.

Stella180
04-07-22, 06:49 PM
Seriously!?

Pixie85
04-07-22, 06:52 PM
What?

Suzi
04-07-22, 07:33 PM
Ok this might sound a bit brutal but what the hell are you thinking leaving kids of that age alone? How would your friend feel about you leaving her child unsupervised while you went to bed? Anything could happen and you are the responsible adult. As for that abusive SOB why would you have any contact with him? Don’t use the kids as an excuse cos he sounds like the kind of guy you want as far away from them so everyone’s safety. The man attacked you while your child was in the same bed ffs! What is it going to take for you to wake up and see what’s really going on? Trust me, this is coming from someone who lost her kids and had a POS toxic ex. You are heading down a path you really don’t wanna go. You need to get your shit together for yourself and those babies of yours. I know you’re struggling, so was I but that doesn’t change the facts that your kids are going to suffer if you don’t get some help.

Hey, I know you have history but you don't have the right to have a go at someone like this. If you have something to say, then there are ways to say it, attacking someone like this is not fair or excusable - all you are ever going to do is trigger someone into feeling worse than they do already. Comments/posts like this could be the trigger to someone carrying out thoughts/ideations and this place is a SAFE space to talk, openly and without being jumped on.
This is NOT the place for posts like this and I won't allow them.

Pixie85
05-07-22, 11:52 AM
First appt with therapist at 2.15. My tummy is in knots, my heart feels like it's beating out of my chest and I feel sick....that being said, I really feel ready for it!

Jaquaia
05-07-22, 12:10 PM
Your therapist will expect you to be nervous. You've got this!

Paula
05-07-22, 12:37 PM
We’re with you in spirit, love

Suzi
05-07-22, 03:17 PM
How did it go love? How are you? Can rest and pace and be kind to yourself for today and the next couple of days?

Pixie85
05-07-22, 03:35 PM
Hi, it went good. A pretty positive first appointment. She ask a million and one questions but nothing I didn't feel I could answer. I was worried about CBT not being enough but she's a trauma focused therapist....so yeh, I feel OK about continuing. Another appointment on Monday at 9

Suzi
05-07-22, 05:31 PM
That's awesome! I'm so glad that it went well! Are you being kind to you for the rest of the day?

Paula
05-07-22, 05:35 PM
That’s so good to hear! I’m so proud of you :)

Pixie85
05-07-22, 06:13 PM
I've not done much with my day, apart from the session really. It's been a bit of a lazy, chilled one.

Jaquaia
05-07-22, 06:19 PM
It's always a good idea to relax and be kind to yourself after counselling. It can be bloody hard work!

Paula
05-07-22, 06:21 PM
Absolutely the right thing to do

Pixie85
05-07-22, 06:53 PM
My "homework" is a problem diary....if I wrote in it what happened over weekend...would it be seen as safeguarding issue?

Strugglingmum
05-07-22, 08:17 PM
I'm glad today went well.
That is a super fantastic huge step. Well done.

Suzi
05-07-22, 09:29 PM
It might pay to be as open as possible, if you can explain how things aren't going to reoccur and you are putting things in place then it might be the best policy - after all you can't do a jigsaw puzzle without all the pieces - it's no different.

Pixie85
05-07-22, 09:35 PM
I'm just a bit scared to say anything. Especially if it looks bad on me and my ability to look after the children....I mean with our 6 year old being there

Suzi
05-07-22, 09:42 PM
But you tried to make him stop... It looks much worse on him. You didn't ask him to come into your bed.....

Pixie85
05-07-22, 09:43 PM
I just don't want to stir up any drama with him, if they told me they'd have to tell other people or anything like that. He doesn't seem to remember

Paula
05-07-22, 09:51 PM
I don’t know, but I’ve got a strong suspicion he is using that as an excuse. Regardless of whether he remembers or not, sweetheart, what he did was wrong and illegal.

Pixie85
05-07-22, 09:57 PM
I know but I don't want to report it or anything but I don't know, I would maybe like to talk it through with someone

Jaquaia
05-07-22, 09:59 PM
You don't have to report it if you don't want to. We get that it's an incredibly hard thing to do. Talking might help though.

Pixie85
05-07-22, 10:00 PM
It's just scary. I don't know what he'd say to me if he knew I'd told people

Jaquaia
05-07-22, 10:02 PM
He doesn't need to know you've told people

Pixie85
05-07-22, 10:04 PM
That's what I'm trying to get to the bottom of. If it would be seen as a safeguarding issue....would the therapist have to tell other people?

Suzi
06-07-22, 08:43 AM
Sweetheart it was a one off. You aren't inviting him in or getting drunk around him often, or being in the position for him to do it again... You are doing what you need to do to safe guard your little boy.

Pixie85
06-07-22, 12:59 PM
He's had similar behaviours when he's been drinking....that's why he stopped drinking for a while....for us to get back on track

Pixie85
06-07-22, 01:52 PM
Having some really feelings of anxiety today....don't really know why

Paula
06-07-22, 02:28 PM
After any talking therapy, it’s usual to struggle a bit more for a couple of days. And you’ve been talking to us about a very difficult subject too. You’ll need to be extra kind to yourself - can you do that?

Suzi
06-07-22, 02:38 PM
Paula's right, therapy is hard - really hard. You have to find space to be kind to you - get a cake and a cuppa or snuggle with your babies and watch a movie or some tv. Be kind to you.

Pixie85
06-07-22, 02:53 PM
I'm sat with a brew, watching cartoons with my 4 year old and his friend. Its kind of settled down a little now

Suzi
06-07-22, 03:43 PM
Well done lovely, it's so important.

magie06
06-07-22, 08:27 PM
As the others have said, therapy is hard work. Very hard. That's the first one done and it's onwards and upwards from here.

By the way, I'm Magie. Sometimes I reply, sometimes I just read. But like everyone here, I've been there, bought the tee-shirt, and practically wrote the book.

Pixie85
06-07-22, 11:05 PM
I think it was something that came.on when I was sat reading the "homework" I was set. She sent over a problem diary, where I have to write triggers/behaviours and feelings around triggers. Not really sure how I'm even supposed to write these things down. Can I maybe be added to the abuse group? I want to be able to go into what happened over the weekend but I'm not sure I can do that here

Suzi
07-07-22, 08:28 AM
Yes, that's fine. I'll add you to that group now lovely.