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Paula
12-04-20, 07:41 PM
Oooo yum!

Jaquaia
16-04-20, 09:38 AM
I'm allergic to something, my legs are covered in hives right up to where my shorts sat! Talk about itchy!!!

Paula
16-04-20, 09:50 AM
Can you take anti histamines?

Jaquaia
16-04-20, 09:55 AM
Going to try and get some today. If not, I need to pick my prescription up and I can get some from the chemist

Angie
16-04-20, 09:57 AM
Anthisan cream can be good for itchy hives sweetie xx

Suzi
16-04-20, 11:27 AM
Hoe are you doing love? Did you get the antihistimine?

Jaquaia
16-04-20, 11:48 AM
None in the village shop but not really surprised. The in laws are popping shopping and are going to see if they can get me some

Stella180
16-04-20, 01:01 PM
I’ve got a load but not much use when I’m so far away.

Suzi
16-04-20, 02:11 PM
Oh no! Hope they manage to get you some love...

Jaquaia
16-04-20, 02:30 PM
I'll be fine. I'm cross stitching in the garden while A plays on her tablet and T does some modelling with J. I have full length trousers on though so hopefully it will help!

Suzi
16-04-20, 06:51 PM
That sounds perfect! Do you know what it is you're allergic to?

Jaquaia
16-04-20, 07:38 PM
Not a clue. Possibly grass as that time I had a rash on my ankles I'd walked through long-ish grass and there were a lot of lawnmowers going yesterday on our walk around the village. It's a new thing though.

Suzi
16-04-20, 07:41 PM
Hope you work it out soon... .

Stella180
16-04-20, 07:44 PM
My allergies can vary year to year. Sometimes it’s really bad from April til September, some times only mid or late in the season, sometimes barely affects me. I’ve been struggling on and off for the past month. My eyes have been itching like crazy.

Jaquaia
16-04-20, 08:03 PM
My eyes are fine. I'm wondering if it could be related to the RA. I've only ever had an allergy to cats when I was little and I've grown out of that.

Suzi
16-04-20, 09:20 PM
Hold on! I think I know what it is! Were you out in the sunshine with no cover and no suncream? And you're on methorexate and hydrod... quine.... (sp!)? It's the meds. They cause hyper sensation to the sun so you have to wear high factor suncream all the time. Pregabalin is another one too...

Jaquaia
16-04-20, 09:47 PM
That would make a lot of sense and it never even crossed my mind. Especially as it's only on the skin exposed to the sun. I will see if the pharmacist can help when I pick my meds up, if not, tempted to buy a bottle of calamine lotion!!! I've ordered a bottle of factor 50, it will be here Saturday

Suzi
17-04-20, 10:45 AM
I know I got caught by the sun a few years ago in Wales (I know! Who'd have thought it!) and I had the most horrific reaction to it. We covered it in after sun, but that made a different reaction which was completely disgusting! Ever since I always cover myself in factor 50+ (the Piz Brun brown bottle one) and at home we have a sail out in the garden which has UV protection too. Otherwise I can't go outside for longer than about 10 mins at a time - especially with my back as that's where the reaction was...

Jaquaia
17-04-20, 11:43 AM
Sun??? In Wales??? (giggle)

It's a lot better today, the soreness and itchiness has gone, it's just still a bit bumpy.

Had a productive morning so far. Took delivery of the washer, got the paint out of the shed to touch up the living room wall where we had to repair the curtain rail and rehung the curtains properly, put another coat of paint on the hanging decoration from A's playhouse, the purple looks so much better than the blue did! And had a long chat with my mum on the phone!

Suzi
17-04-20, 11:47 AM
That's loads! I hope you've had help doing it too?
How much have you had to drink?

Jaquaia
17-04-20, 11:52 AM
J is in bed as he's on nights. The washer is near the backdoor ready to be brought in when he gets up. Even I'm not daft enough to attempt doing it on my own! And it was only a small patch of wall. And the curtains were hung, they just needed doing properly over the last bracket.

Suzi
17-04-20, 03:41 PM
Fair enough.... Have you been drinking?

Jaquaia
17-04-20, 04:59 PM
I have. Even been to my mums. My dad has finished his extra meds so was able to do her 4 weeks worth

Angie
17-04-20, 05:51 PM
Hope your now taking it a bit easy sweetie x

Jaquaia
17-04-20, 07:10 PM
I'm washing! I have a new washer dryer so need to play with it! (giggle)

I've started sewing playhouse curtains. I'm not great at sewing but hopefully it will look ok.

Suzi
17-04-20, 07:50 PM
Well done. Rest now?

Jaquaia
17-04-20, 08:10 PM
Uni work for a little bit. Have an assignment due on Wednesday so want to try and get something done tonight sp I can start drafting it tomorrow

Suzi
17-04-20, 09:08 PM
Just take it gently love....

Jaquaia
17-04-20, 09:33 PM
You know me!!!

Oh... that's probably why you said that....

Angie
18-04-20, 12:39 AM
(rofl)

Paula
18-04-20, 07:49 AM
Morning, love, rest? Hydration?

Suzi
18-04-20, 09:58 AM
How did the studying go? Are the children still with you?

Jaquaia
18-04-20, 10:33 AM
It will be a mixture of washing (a week and a half without a washer and a 5 year old who changes when she gets her clothes dirty, you can imagine how much there is to do!), uni work, sewing and maybe painting


How did the studying go? Are the children still with you?

I did what I needed to for my essay. Just need to do a literature search now. The children went to Cruella on Thursday, they're back with us on Monday.

Suzi
18-04-20, 03:12 PM
Are you loving having them with you? Bet it's quiet when they aren't there?

Jaquaia
18-04-20, 04:22 PM
It's brilliant when they're here. A constantly tells me that she loves me, gives me hugs and kisses and has told J he has to keep me, and T is comfortable confiding in me. We had them both in bed with us the other morning for cuddles.

A had me crying with laughter. She's fascinated by my boobs and often squeezes them and says "boobies". The other day was slightly different.

"You have big boobies! Mummy only has teeny tiny boobies but I won't tell her yours are better"

Oh and I'm a better cook too but she won't tell her that either (giggle)

Stella180
18-04-20, 05:30 PM
She's fascinated by my boobs and often squeezes them and says "boobies".

Definitely her father’s daughter! Lol

Jaquaia
18-04-20, 06:30 PM
Oh hell yes!

Paula
18-04-20, 06:57 PM
(rofl)

Suzi
18-04-20, 08:27 PM
Well, if you have fabulous boobies then you should be proud of them! :) Definitely a good lesson in body positivity!

Jaquaia
18-04-20, 08:33 PM
If I'm honest, I'm a lot more positive about my body since meeting J. How can I not be when he looks at me like he's looking at the most beautiful woman alive?

Stella180
18-04-20, 08:35 PM
Suzi I can tell you first hand she has more than ample boobage. With the right support she will always keep her head held high and never fall flat on her face!

Stella180
18-04-20, 08:39 PM
If I'm honest, I'm a lot more positive about my body since meeting J. How can I not be when he looks at me like he's looking at the most beautiful woman alive?
Hard not to when he can appreciate your beauty both inside and out. He is a lucky man and if he EVER dares to hurt you (not that I believe he intentionally would but...) he better invest in a coffin first.

Suzi
18-04-20, 08:42 PM
Boobs are awesome ;) They should be celebrated no matter what the size and shape and scars ;)

Paula
18-04-20, 09:13 PM
Boobs are awesome ;) They should be celebrated no matter what the size and shape and scars ;)

This. Mine were huge and Si loved them. I had to have them reduced and he sulked for a little while, but still loved them. As it should be ;)

Suzi
19-04-20, 11:27 AM
I didn't know you'd had a reduction Paula!

How are you today Jaq?

Jaquaia
19-04-20, 11:38 AM
Tired. Today is just going to be getting on top of the washing, uni work and shopping this afternoon.

Paula
19-04-20, 11:51 AM
I didn't know you'd had a reduction Paula!

How are you today Jaq?

Yeah, about 15 years ago. I was a G and, combined with my hypermobility, my back was getting screwed up. It was an extraordinarily painful thing to have done but was worth it. I’d never recommend purely for cosmetic purposes......

OldMike
19-04-20, 05:24 PM
All this chat about boobs makes me feel like I've wandered into the lingerie section of M&S by accident and am surrounded by bras and panties and don't know which way to look, I didn't intend to be here honest (blush) (giggle)

Stella180
19-04-20, 05:38 PM
(rofl)(rofl)(rofl)

Suzi
19-04-20, 05:54 PM
All this chat about boobs makes me feel like I've wandered into the lingerie section of M&S by accident and am surrounded by bras and panties and don't know which way to look, I didn't intend to be here honest (blush) (giggle)
Have you seen that episode of Father Ted? It's hilarious!


Hope you're pacing Jaq....

Jaquaia
19-04-20, 06:46 PM
Trying but I'm restless. I've finished the washing and ended up stripping our bed...

And he's told me off about my drinking, or rather lack of...

Angie
19-04-20, 07:06 PM
I'm glad J is there to nag erm cough remind you about drinking hunni

Jaquaia
19-04-20, 07:25 PM
Cat. Free to good home. Any takers???

https://www.dropbox.com/s/icjdkyuac1kuep5/20200419_192214.jpg?raw=1

Angie
19-04-20, 07:35 PM
Lol mine do that or sit on top of the fridge and peak in when ever it is opened

Jaquaia
19-04-20, 08:01 PM
He makes me laugh. When J is on nights, he will go upstairs and sulk if I won't feed him as J feeds him when he gets home. Every time he tries to con me out of a second breakfast (giggle)

Angie
19-04-20, 09:02 PM
Yup typical cat lol

Suzi
19-04-20, 09:37 PM
Lol! Glad J is nagging about the drinking....

Paula
19-04-20, 09:39 PM
That photo is awesome ((rofl)

Jaquaia
19-04-20, 09:39 PM
He was also nagging me to sit down as I somehow managed to forget lunch...


That photo is awesome ((rofl)

Toby is a little twat! He wasn't phased by me standing there at all!!! (rofl)

Suzi
19-04-20, 09:40 PM
Do you need to go back to alarm reminders about eating and drinking?

Jaquaia
19-04-20, 09:44 PM
Normally I'm really good. I normally have lunch when J has his breakfast when he's on nights, but today I was hanging washing out then we went to do a food shop so I'm putting it down to being busy.

Suzi
20-04-20, 10:41 AM
Morning love! How are you doing? Drinking alarm set?

Jaquaia
20-04-20, 12:13 PM
I have a J, does that count? (giggle)

I'm ok, just a little tired. I've washed the childrens bedding and that's out on the line to dry, I was going to put the final coat of paint on the roof of the playhouse but it's my dad's birthday so I had a long chat to him instead.

Paula
20-04-20, 02:27 PM
If you’re tired, chatting to your dad rather than painting sounds like the right thing to do :)

Suzi
20-04-20, 02:28 PM
Happy birthday to your Dad!

Glad you resisted doing the painting..

Stella180
20-04-20, 03:15 PM
How is the old man? I hope he likes his keyring when it eventually arrives.

Jaquaia
20-04-20, 07:33 PM
He's bored.

Stella180
20-04-20, 07:58 PM
I think we all are by now

Suzi
20-04-20, 08:26 PM
Are there things that he can be doing around the house/garden?

Jaquaia
20-04-20, 09:17 PM
He's got bits to do but his stomach hasn't been sorted yet so he struggles to do anything for long.

I'm having an easy night tonight, started with a massive headache after tea so don't think J would let me work this evening anyway. He's been rather bossy!

Stella180
20-04-20, 09:21 PM
It's one thing him being bossy but the fact that you actually do as your told is impressive. Finally, one person you will listen too

Jaquaia
20-04-20, 09:31 PM
I didn't have a choice!

Stella180
20-04-20, 09:37 PM
GOOD!!!Now stop staring at a screen and get to bed missus. Hope your head is better soon. Oh what am I saying? Your head aint been right all the time I've known you lol. I hope it stops hurting though

Suzi
21-04-20, 08:09 AM
How are you this morning? Hope the headache has shifted.... Could if be that you aren't drinking enough?

Jaquaia
21-04-20, 09:38 AM
Mostly. It's just a slight headache now. And very possibly! I've been told off again this morning and he now has A joining in too!

Paula
21-04-20, 10:02 AM
(rofl)

Suzi
21-04-20, 12:25 PM
Awesome! You have the little ones back with you again? How long for?

Jaquaia
21-04-20, 12:44 PM
They go back to Cruella tomorrow afternoon as J starts days on Thursday.

TOTM. It will explain the stomach ache, grumpiness and general yucky feeling.

Suzi
21-04-20, 01:58 PM
It'll be nice having J back to days won't it?
(bear) for the totm...

Jaquaia
21-04-20, 02:07 PM
It will be. We'll actually get some time in an evening together

Suzi
21-04-20, 03:01 PM
Sounds lovely!

Paula
21-04-20, 07:17 PM
How’s the stomach cramp?

Jaquaia
21-04-20, 08:14 PM
Not great. I've noticeably not been 100% today and J has made me rest. He also keeps appearing to top my glass up...

Stella180
21-04-20, 08:26 PM
Oh what a horrid person. Quick, pack your bags and leave cos you could t possibly stay with a man who takes care of you.

Paula
21-04-20, 08:32 PM
(rofl)

Jaquaia
21-04-20, 09:08 PM
I think I've drank more today than the last 2 days combined!

Suzi
21-04-20, 09:42 PM
That shouts volumes about how little you are drinking atm.......

Paula
22-04-20, 09:06 AM
Morning! Have you drunk anything yet?

Jaquaia
22-04-20, 10:24 AM
I have! Not enough but I've been getting the kids sorted for breakfast while J showered. I'm sure he will start nagging soon!!!

Suzi
22-04-20, 10:45 AM
Lol.... How's the nagging?

Jaquaia
22-04-20, 10:47 AM
I'm drinking so getting away with it at the moment.

Suzi
22-04-20, 11:02 AM
Good! What are you doing today?

Jaquaia
22-04-20, 01:20 PM
We've done some school work with the children this morning, after lunch A can play on her tablet or outside, T is going to do some modelling with J and I'm going to try and finish sewing this first curtain. I'll post a photo when it's done

Suzi
22-04-20, 02:54 PM
All sounds fabulous! :)

Jaquaia
22-04-20, 03:52 PM
Uploading now! Will put it in the playhouse thread. Only another 3 to make!

Suzi
22-04-20, 06:53 PM
YAY! You just seem so happy!

Paula
22-04-20, 06:59 PM
I’m so chuffed at how settled you all sound in your new, wonderful life :)

Jaquaia
22-04-20, 09:46 PM
I'm very happy. There were tears last night though
T asked an innocent question about how I would tell off my children if I had them and he hit a nerve. He apologised quickly but I think that was down to J nudging him. I know he doesn't fully understand so I'm not upset with him, it's just a sore subject.

Paula
22-04-20, 10:52 PM
Oh hunni (panda). Of course you understand, doesn’t stop it hurting though ....

Suzi
23-04-20, 09:20 AM
Did you tell him why you were upset?

OldMike
23-04-20, 10:16 AM
(panda)

Jaquaia
23-04-20, 10:18 AM
I just looked down at my plate and managed to hide I was upset from T. J could tell though and it got brought up when we went to bed as I asked him if he'd nudged T with how quickly he apologised. T does know I can't have children and just simply had it explained as I have something wrong with me.

Stella180
23-04-20, 10:54 AM
Sorry mate but I disagree, you don’t “have something wrong” with you. All of the various struggles and ailments you have had to endure throughout your life have made you who you are. It may not be the way you would like it to be but you are the perfect version of you.

Suzi
23-04-20, 12:01 PM
Sorry mate but I disagree, you don’t “have something wrong” with you. All of the various struggles and ailments you have had to endure throughout your life have made you who you are. It may not be the way you would like it to be but you are the perfect version of you.
I absolutely agree with this!!!!

There isn't "something wrong with you" at all. I know you wish you could, but hunni you may not be the biological mother to those babies, but by the sounds of it you are more of a caring, loving, adoring mother than they have ever had before. You, are more than what they need and they will love you forever for it. I just wish you'd been bought into their lives earlier...

Paula
23-04-20, 01:29 PM
Yep, I’m with Stella too. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you, at all. I just hope you will in time be able to see that you do have children - whether they came out of your body or not, you’re still mum to them

Suzi
01-05-20, 11:18 AM
Hey you, you're really quiet.... How are you?

Jaquaia
01-05-20, 02:24 PM
I'm ok, just tired. I've had an essay to hand in so been focusing on that and being stepmother for a few days now

Suzi
01-05-20, 07:23 PM
How are the kids? Are you having fun? How have you juggled kids and study? Is J doing days?

Jaquaia
01-05-20, 09:00 PM
I tend to do an hour or so once they've gone to bed and work when J is at work. He starts days on sunday then we have them for a week from Thursday. The kids are good, T told me he loved me today and A jumped in with us this morning while J was still asleep, talked to me for a little while then went back to sleep cuddling me, which was nice. Cruella is attempting to change days as she claims it's not working, yet the kids get equal time with both parents. With what she suggested, they'd only get 3 or 4 hours with J some weeks yet she's refusing mediation...

Stella180
01-05-20, 09:04 PM
Well that will look good in court when it’s logged about her refusal.

Jaquaia
01-05-20, 09:13 PM
Exactly! She said they should be able to sort it out between themselves like the deed of separation. She went very quiet when he said it needs to be mediation as if he doesn't agree with her she just shouts and swears at him. She's even complained that she hasn't been introduced to me...

Stella180
01-05-20, 09:22 PM
You are kidding me! After all the threats she has made why the hell would he think it was a good idea to introduce you? Anyway she had a chance to introduce herself at A’s birthday party so that’s on her.

Jaquaia
01-05-20, 09:24 PM
That's exactly what he pointed out to her the last time she brought it up!

Suzi
02-05-20, 09:50 AM
It's so lovely how much the children have formed such strong bonds so fast - not that there was any doubt as we knew they would! That's why she's kicking off, the children have told her how awesome you are and that's what she's protesting about...

Paula
02-05-20, 03:00 PM
Couldn’t agree more - she’s jealous pure and simple. I’m just glad J is standing his ground

Jaquaia
02-05-20, 07:41 PM
A keeps telling me that I'm the best Kerry in the world! (inlove)

Well A baked another chocolate cake this week and T has asked to bake with me when they're back so we're doing muffins next week. We took some cake round to J's parents and had a socially distanced chat, and got them looking for scenes around the village (someone has set up 10 scenes for the children to find). It's lovely that just a 5 minute walk away we were stood watching horses and listening to cows, not to mention bird song all the time. It's so peaceful.

Suzi
02-05-20, 08:11 PM
That's so fabulous! Sounds like a lovely time!

Jaquaia
02-05-20, 08:59 PM
Started a new project, knitting a blanket for a friend who has just found out she's pregnant. Working with circular needles and 2 strands of wool feels so clumsy...

Suzi
02-05-20, 09:10 PM
Wow! Go you! :)

Paula
02-05-20, 09:22 PM
I’m seriously impressed!

Strugglingmum
02-05-20, 09:31 PM
Well impressed. Not too much in one sitting or your hands may flare. Do it in short spells. It will grow before you know it.

Jaquaia
02-05-20, 09:35 PM
https://www.allfreeknitting.com/Knit-Baby-Afghans/Babysoft-Checkers-Baby-Blanket-Lion-Brand

This is what I'm knitting, I've just never used circular needles before. Or knitted with 2 strands for that matter!!!

I promise I'll be good SM (angel)

Strugglingmum
02-05-20, 09:43 PM
Its beautiful (bear)

Paula
02-05-20, 10:08 PM
That’s gorgeous!

Suzi
02-05-20, 10:23 PM
OO that's awesome!

Jaquaia
03-05-20, 06:02 PM
So today I have gotten up late, argued with that cat that I wasn't feeding him again... he won by the way... washed and dried the towels, hoovered the living room and under the sofa cushions, dusted everything but J's bookshelves as he needs to get the bloody things sorted, done a weeks worth of methods work for uni and am currently sat learning how to do psychological coding whilst listening to Idlewild...

That's taking it easy right?

Suzi
03-05-20, 07:22 PM
I think you know the answer to that!

Stella180
03-05-20, 07:53 PM
The getting up late and listening to Idlewild count towards “taking it easy”. The rest...not so much.

Jaquaia
03-05-20, 07:56 PM
Well done 2 weeks worth of methods then my laptop started dying so sat knitting and watching Hustle.

Stella180
03-05-20, 07:57 PM
Also fall under the taking it easy umbrella

Paula
03-05-20, 08:05 PM
You sound hacked off, hun

Jaquaia
03-05-20, 08:23 PM
Just tired and restless. I need to be doing something but J is home now and he'll make me rest

Mira
03-05-20, 09:23 PM
Enjoy the time with him and relax. You deserve it.

Suzi
03-05-20, 09:32 PM
If you need to do stuff, then do something - doing knitting or something is allowed..

Jaquaia
03-05-20, 10:03 PM
I did 7 rows and come up to bed to read while J has a bath. It's so squishy!!! But already worrying in case his friend doesn't like it. She's like a sister to him, supported him without judgement since everything came out, embraced me without judgement, gone through hell to have this baby, and I just want to do something nice for her.

Stella180
03-05-20, 10:08 PM
You have chosen to create something for her baby, not just go buy something from a shop but to spend time and effort making something they can cherish. Best kinda gift there is. Except maybe Lego superheroes ;)

Paula
03-05-20, 10:12 PM
She will love it, because it’ll be beautiful but also because you’re putting yourself and your heart into this

Strugglingmum
03-05-20, 10:33 PM
I think handmade is the best kind of gift. Anyone can order something online or go to a shop but its special to put time and effort into a one of a kind gift.

Jaquaia
04-05-20, 09:00 AM
I know you're all right.

Been awake since half 5. Woke up with J's alarm and didn't manage to fall back to sleep. Already showered, got a wash on, read 2 chapters of my book and had breakfast!

Suzi
04-05-20, 10:44 AM
Absolutely agree, homemade are best! :)

Are you planning on taking it a bit easier today?

Jaquaia
04-05-20, 11:03 AM
Erm... I'll try! I plan on changing T's bed today. My thinking is do one bed a day rather than all on the same day like last time, then they've got fresh bedding to come back to and we get fresh bedding for when J finishes work on Wednesday. Plus our new plates have arrived today so I need to wash them! I insisted on new as I didn't want to have to keep using her castoffs. It might seem petty but they were theirs, these are ours! In fact, it's been like Christmas today! I ordered new doorstops too as the one we're using is an owl and that's her thing, not mine. So we have a plaid kitten and a fluffy penguin to choose from! And I have a new roasting tin on the way. And got a cake cooling rack delivered yesterday!

Paula
04-05-20, 11:06 AM
Doesn’t seem petty to me at all

OldMike
04-05-20, 12:00 PM
Making something for a present is far better than getting something off the shelf.

Jaquaia
04-05-20, 12:32 PM
Doesn’t seem petty to me at all

Thank you

Suzi
04-05-20, 12:57 PM
I don't think it's petty! I'd want to replace everything that she'd had there! Paint every wall, change the carpets and make sure I'd bought a new door number... Out with the old and make sure that J offers everything back to her! (panda)(bear)(panda)(bear)

Jaquaia
04-05-20, 01:30 PM
Our room is pretty much done, I just need bookcases. J had new bedding the day she moved out as his mum was prepared (giggle). A's room is done (and very pink!). His friend came and painted the bathroom not long after she moved out so the awful blue has gone. His mum and dad paid for the living room decorating and there's a new sofa and carpet and new curtains so the horrible pink and beige combo has gone. And they've also paid for a new kitchen and it's painted so the horrible black, white and red combo has gone. We just need tiling and flooring done after lockdown, I've bought blinds so they're up. We have a plan for the hall and downstairs loo and T needs to think about colours for his room. Downstairs is various shades of green and grey so it's very peaceful and relaxing.

His parents started things straight away as they wanted to erase every trace of her from the house so he could have a fresh start

Suzi
04-05-20, 03:15 PM
Mwah ha ha ha ha ha that's awesome!

Jaquaia
04-05-20, 04:27 PM
They are awesome. I spent 40 minutes talking to J's dad on the phone last night, I get on really well with both of them. In fact, his mum has warned him that he better not upset me!!!

Mira
04-05-20, 04:31 PM
That does sound awesome. I truly do think you get on so well with them all because you fit right in. And they must be so happy that you are a part of that family now.

Jaquaia
04-05-20, 04:53 PM
His mum commented (at an acceptable social distance) when we dropped cake off that she loves seeing how much more the children laugh now when they're with us. T rang J yesterday morning and A was with him and asked when they were coming back as she missed us both and wanted to make more cake.

Suzi
04-05-20, 05:34 PM
You have your family.... That's your place. You were meant to be there..... You are meant to be there to take care of J, but more importantly those little people and show them what love is and by the way you talk about them you really do love them.... and they love you...

Paula
04-05-20, 06:18 PM
That post made my heart happy :) I am so, so, so happy for you :)

Jaquaia
04-05-20, 06:49 PM
I love them like they were my own already. I've even told T that I would be proud to have a son like him. It just hurts that I will never be called mum.

I think I'm lucky with J too. My methods work was difficult today. I had to watch a video of a psychologist talking about how he uses qualitative methods in his research. There was just no warning that his research was on infertility... J has checked if I'm ok several times since I told him and has promised hugs when he gets home.

Stella180
04-05-20, 07:41 PM
I’m not going to pretend to know how you feel but I promise you, carrying a foetus in your womb for 9 months doesn’t make you a mother. What you have with those children is everything and they may not be biologically yours but it’s obvious that in a short space of time they have come to love you unconditional and that is because you are everything a mother needs to be. Never sell yourself short mate.

Suzi
04-05-20, 09:22 PM
Stella is totally spot on. I've seen women who've given birth and treat their children like crap. I've seen women who use their children like bargaining chips or just for child benefit etc and then I've seen women who have stepped in and have been the most amazing Mum's I've ever known - I'm including you and a good friend of mine who is a foster carer and who has provided a safe home for so many and permanent homes too. Honestly, giving birth does not make you a Mum... Love, respect and understanding make you a Mum.... If they don't call you Mum, why not choose another name they - and just they - can call you? Everyone calls you Jaq or your name, why not see if they wanted to find another name for you? Not "Mum" but one that shows your bond?

Suzi
15-05-20, 12:43 PM
I wanted to say something, but I don't want to upset you.....

On your fab 5's you said spending time with "J's little people" - I can't possibly understand that they aren't "our little people"... No one does what you do for those little people unless you love and adore them. They may not be biologically yours, but in every other (and most important) ways they are yours too... You read with them, you craft, you bake cakes, you listen, you make them feel loved and valued, you've changed their rooms, you've created a wonderful space in the playhouse and they've got so much from you....

Jaquaia
15-05-20, 12:47 PM
Still doesn't make them mine

Paula
15-05-20, 12:58 PM
Of course they’re yours. In the same way Katie is Si’s. that doesn’t take away from her relationship with her dad - it’s just she’s got 2 dad’s who adore her (lucky girl!)

Suzi
15-05-20, 01:42 PM
I disagree with you Jaq - I think that it definitely does make them yours if you want them to be. You love them right? You miss them when they aren't there? Love spending time with them? Are interested in what they do/think/feel?
You may not be "Mum" but you can have another very special word that only they get to call you. You are amazing.

Jaquaia
15-05-20, 02:19 PM
I'm not discussing this here as you don't understand how it feels for me. Last time this topic came up you all managed to make me feel completely inadequate that I can't just shrug off this desire to have a child of my own. Just because I'm like a mum to J's children doesn't make it hurt any less and you all made me feel like it was wrong to still feel so much pain over this, that how I felt was wrong. This is why I haven't posted. So I'm going to say very clearly that this subject is off limits.

Strugglingmum
15-05-20, 03:38 PM
I'm really sorry you feel so misunderstood and hurt. You are totally right, I have no idea how it feels and I'm sorry if that pain has felt diminished. I guess people were trying to help but got it wrong. My best friend is in a similar position to you and eventually found some degree of peace about her medical facts but it still hurts her at times. I guess it always will, I just hug her extra hard at those times so I'm sending you a hug too. (panda)

Stella180
15-05-20, 05:20 PM
Jaq, I’m sorry but I can’t just leave that there. I got that you would desperately love to have children of your own and it’s unfair that the possibility of that happening is so remote. Life can be so cruel especially when you are a natural around kids (I heard a rumour you used to be you).

I can’t speak for everyone else but I absolutely stand by all that I said. You are a special person and I know how much you struggle with this subject. In your head you’ll never have your own family but you’re wrong. You knew from the start that being with J meant the kids came too as part of the package. Let’s imagine for one minute that you conceived, carried and gave birth to a child of your own. Would you treat that child any differently to J’s two? You and both no the answer to that question is no so what exactly is the difference? You have taken on the role of Mum and doing a hell of a better job than the egg donor who spat them out!!! Accept it.

Jaquaia
15-05-20, 06:51 PM
Oh it's absolutely fine then that I'm infertile! Silly me getting so upset about not being able to do what I'm biologically supposed to do. I'm gaining 2 step-children so not being able to conceive doesn't matter! I should be grateful for them rather than mourning the child I will never have every time I see yet another pregnancy announcement! I get where I'm going wrong now!!!

I have never once said that I will nevet have my own family, J and the children are my family. I've said about how much it hurts not being able to have my own child but thanks for proving that people here don't understa.

Off limits means off limits. If people can't respect that then I'll just stop posting anything remotely personal here as I need to be able to trust the people I'm opening up to.

Stella180
15-05-20, 07:17 PM
I’ll just stfu then. It’s not like I actually give a (swear)(swear)(swear)(swear) about you but hey I don’t understand

Jaquaia
15-05-20, 07:26 PM
You have children so how can you possibly understand??? You don't understand or you would never have asked me what the difference was between having a child of my own and having A and T in my life.

Suzi
15-05-20, 10:00 PM
I'm going to send you a pm. This was me who started this. I'm sorry.